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Loose Change
For all of you 9/11 conspiracy theory haters out there, please review the following video. From now, people claiming that 9/11 was not a conspiracy
will not be taken seriously until they review this video.
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For anyone who still has doubts about 911, weigh out the facts and the overwhelming amount of evidence supporting the reality that the events of 911
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
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| posted on 3-30-09 at 02:44 PM |
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Thank you Dave. I believe anyone who into conspiracy theories has to watch this video. This is a video who's creator went over EVERYTHING with a
fine-toothed comb.
It doesn't matter how hard you get hit, but how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward...
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| posted on 3-30-09 at 02:45 PM |
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Thank you...
Yeah, I'm sick and tired of hearing about the "liberal 9/11 conspiracy theories" get trash talked when people have failed to review all evidence.
Quit being cowards, and at least review all of the evidence. Then, if you still don't find anything strange, continue being a moron.
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| posted on 3-30-09 at 02:53 PM |
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Yea because if you reviewed it all and still say something funny never happened, then you sir are legally retarded.
It doesn't matter how hard you get hit, but how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward...
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| posted on 3-30-09 at 05:47 PM |
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So someone is "retarded" because they don't share the same Opinion?
So far from what I watched it's alot of Circumstantial evidence blown out to make it look like it's something going on behind the scene's. Sorry
Don't buy it.
[Edited on 3-30-09 by rowskid86]
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| posted on 3-30-09 at 06:21 PM |
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Then you sir can't see the truth. I'm sorry, I don't see any of it circumstantial. Besides I never said, "If you don't share my opinion, you sir
are legally retarded." I said,"if you reviewed it all and still say something funny never happened, then you sir are legally retarded." I merely
stated that if you don't question, even a little bit, what happened that horrid day after viewing this video then you're blinded by liberal,
political bullshit that this government "for the people" decided to feed us.
We never question what were told anymore. We never question authority, education, or even our jobs. We never question if what we do as a country is
morally wrong or morally right, we just do. I believe that this country has become so far shoved up it's own ass that we can't see the light that
will put us in the right direction. We can't look past our own censored greed to see that what we're doing is running the country into the
ground. It's all coming to a head now. The whole point of I think of these 9/11 conspiracies being shot down is because they don't want questions.
They don't want us to wonder if something odd happened that day. The liberals in this country want us to keep our censored heads in the sand
so they can run right past us and do whatever the f*ck they want. This is why America is in the situation it is right now, because of people like you
sir who are going to back the government blindly.
Without question.
It doesn't matter how hard you get hit, but how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward...
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| posted on 3-30-09 at 07:23 PM |
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trust me I question alot of things. but sometimes your poking your head in something that could not even exist. I've learned to step back and look at
it all from every angle and then draw my own conclusions. And at the Moment I have drawn the Conclusion of which I support, there is a chance it might
change then again it might not.
Also I do not back the Government blindly, infact I really don't trust it. Anyone who knows me knows that. And they know I step back and look at it
without a bias before making my conclusion. What we need is more people like me, than those who jump to conclusions, and twist it for their own
agenda.
By the tone of your post, it sounds like you are trying to call me a Liberal. If that is the case, you could not be more mistaken. I am probably one
of the more conservative people you will meet.
| Quote: | | if you reviewed it all and still say something funny never happened, then you sir are legally retarded. |
That right there is a opinion, not a fact. and actually quite insulting. when debating it's best to leave those out, they only hurt your case not
help them.
While I'm trying to be respectful of your post, and respect your opinion, it seems I have not gotten the same treatment. And I would urge you to give
the same consideration I gave you.
Even if we have to agree to disagree.
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| posted on 3-30-09 at 08:44 PM |
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ok if this was the doing of Bin laden why was there no more attacks on our country.... so what you are saying is one and done..it's seems a little
fishy to me tho.. everyone has an opinion thats the american way
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| posted on 3-31-09 at 03:24 AM |
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do you think that it just might be the fact he's on the run, the fact we have troops kicking the Talibans ass. Did that ever occur?
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An effective military campaign against a true religious zealot would only serve to strengthen his resolve and show a marked increase in the ferocity
of his attacks.
A true "terrorist" has no concern about dying for their cause. "Attack the enemy at any cost" is the general consensus.
This leads me to believe either:
1) He's dead.
2) He isn't guilty for the crimes the real terrorists accuse him of. That he is a scape goat that was used to justify a military campaign in
Afghanistan/Iraq.
See: Operation Northwoods
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To Rowskid:
I do respect you position on this. I may not show it, but I do respect it.
It doesn't matter how hard you get hit, but how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward...
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| posted on 3-31-09 at 06:39 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DBieniek
An effective military campaign against a true religious zealot would only serve to strengthen his resolve and show a marked increase in the ferocity
of his attacks.
A true "terrorist" has no concern about dying for their cause. "Attack the enemy at any cost" is the general consensus.
This leads me to believe either:
1) He's dead.
2) He isn't guilty for the crimes the real terrorists accuse him of. That he is a scape goat that was used to justify a military campaign in
Afghanistan/Iraq.
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Operation Northwoods never happened all it was, was a idea by one person, after presenting it he was fired Correct? thats what your video you posted
said, and several other sources. It was one person, one time you can't keep bringing it up when it never happened and the man behind it was
terminated.
it would not necessarily strength their resolve, seems as fast as they are training them we are killing them. Plus most the terrorists are too busy
plotting attacks against our troops and Iraqi troops, to try to attack on the mainland again. Plus there are gaps in attacks, look at the gap between
the bombing of the USS Cole and 9/11.
Yeah I know fighting Muslim nutbags is a difficult task, and IMO we are fighting it wrong. We need to completely break any will they have to fight.
They plant a roadside bombing, we execute 50 or more terrorists we have captured. The more severe their attack, we hit them back 1000 fold. To win
this kind of war, you have to show your enemy they where wrong to ever oppose you. That's how you win. Not this pussyfooting around.
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| posted on 4-1-09 at 10:14 AM |
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| Quote: | | Operation Northwoods never happened all it was, was a idea by one person, after presenting it he was fired Correct? thats what
your video you posted said, and several other sources. It was one person, one time you can't keep bringing it up when it never happened and the man
behind it was terminated. |
No. It wasn't executed because one person said no. President Kennedy. JFK was a better president than Bushwhacker by leaps and
bounds. Plus, his family doesn't have ties with the oil industry.
| Quote: | | most the terrorists are too busy plotting attacks against our troops and Iraqi troops, to try to attack on the mainland
again. |
Again, no. We are in their country. Therefore, they are no longer "terrorists." They are simply a military body defending their
homeland.
| Quote: | | We need to completely break any will they have to fight. |
You can't. These people will not listen to logic. If they were susceptible to logic, they wouldn't be fighting for their religion.
| Quote: | | They plant a roadside bombing, we execute 50 or more terrorists we have captured. The more severe their attack, we hit them
back 1000 fold. To win this kind of war, you have to show your enemy they where wrong to ever oppose you. That's how you win. Not this pussyfooting
around. |
So we should become hypocrites and terrorists? (well, bigger terrorists)
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| posted on 4-1-09 at 06:28 PM |
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| Quote: | No. It wasn't executed because one person said no. President Kennedy. JFK was a better president than Bushwhacker by leaps and
bounds. Plus, his family doesn't have ties with the oil industry.
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I disagree Kennedy was not a good president, the man had bigger ties to the Mob than Bush to Oil.
| Quote: | | Again, no. We are in their country. Therefore, they are no longer "terrorists." They are simply a military body defending
their homeland. |
And they attacked our Country, thats one of the reason's why we are there. another reason is to protect our Ally Israel, which has been and still is
a great ally. The Arabs there would like nothing more to see Israel wiped from the map. Plus most of the terrorists fighting in Iraq are from Syria,
Jordan, Pakistan, UAE, and other nations. Last time I checked those nationalities are not Iraqi, therefore not there Homeland.
| Quote: | | You can't. These people will not listen to logic. If they were susceptible to logic, they wouldn't be fighting for their
religion |
I never said anything about showing them logic. we already saw that not working. You completely beat the censored out of them. Do that enough
that will break anyone's will to fight. Humiliate them to no end, that will break their will.
| Quote: | | So we should become hypocrites and terrorists? (well, bigger terrorists) |
That would not make us terrorists, not by a long shot. We are a sovereign nation defending ourselve's from an attacker. This is WAR. Simple as that,
and in war you fight to win. Not fight to have a tie or lose. They started the war, and we are going to win it.
It's simple in war they bloody your nose, you break their arm. thats how it's been fought since we have had nations. You never hit them less than
they hit you or the same, you always hit harder.
They attacked the WTC, we should have took one of their cities, and had a entire air wing of B-52's and carpeted it.
Show them that if you want to try to attack the United States, we will end you.
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| posted on 4-1-09 at 08:10 PM |
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WHAT HAPPENED to japan after pearl harbor the USA nuke bombed em.. because facts were its was the japanese that attacked the USa . with that said .
why did the USA not attack afgan.. in the same way ..answer innocent.. ok not meaning to nuke Afgan..that came off all wrong .. meaning attack them
with a heavy resolve.. much like we did in the war in the Gulf ..
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Answer the UN. Imagine the out cry if we nuked someone. Hell just look at how pissed the world was when we invaded Iraq.
If I was the one calling the shots trust me, we would not have any problems In Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Jordon, Palestine, and the UEA.
Your Logic is beyond flawed, almost to the line of shear Insanity. Clutching to any straw you can before you run out.
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| posted on 4-1-09 at 10:30 PM |
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Genocide isn't insane? 
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| posted on 4-2-09 at 04:53 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DBieniek
Genocide isn't insane? |
It's not genocide, it's war, and in war people die simple as that. Was how we fought the Nazi's and jap's in ww2 considered Genocide? Fight them
in the same style.
I've always been a proponent of If you're going to fight a war, you fight to win. No way around that. The Enemy Kicks you you kick them back so
hard they can not walk.
Gus you links are not even from a credible source. Like I said I'm not changing my stance until I see hard core proof, from a credible source. Not
from some average joe.
Where done here.
[Edited on 4-2-09 by rowskid86]
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Yes, what we did in WW2 was genocide. Granted, in that situation there was a viable threat to our national security.
In this current situation, it is our foolish American pride that is not allowing us to high tail it out of Iraq/Afghanistan. I had hoped the
Obamunator would have lived up to his promises and removed the soldiers.
In any case, the systematic destruction of any nationality IS genocide. I just want you to be sure that you would be condemning thousands of innocent
people just like you and I to die.
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I think you both make valid points.
Under no circumstance is it ever acceptable to kill a bunch of people just because you hate the people you are fighting. Boo hoo
How can you ask a credible source when none of the baboons in our government are talking? You can't
'Absense of evidence is not evidence of absence-Albert Einstein
Battle not with monsters
lest ye become a monster
and if you gaze into the abyss
the abyss gazes into you.-
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hey Rows. i do not want you to change what you believe in ..maybe someday you will get to see the creditable facts you are looking for as will the
rest of us . but i doubt that will happen in our lifetime...i do believe something does need done to put the whole 9/11 thing to rest , be it for the
good or the bad . the real facts and truth would be a godsend..
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| posted on 4-2-09 at 06:53 PM |
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there is one way which the government could clear all of this up... it's as simple as releasing all of the "confidential/restricted" footage.. such
as the videos which would or would not show the plane crashing into the pentagon.. even if you don't believe that our government is behind this, can
you tell me why they are being so secretive about it? why wouldn't they want the world to see that planes actually crashed into the pentagon!!! this
would clear everything up... or would the facts expose them...?
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| Quote: | | you say my thinking is flawed .then you say it's not genocide its war .. dude you can't have it both ways ..
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Honestly that makes no F*CKING Sense. Seriously it doesn't. You have not a clue what you are talking about, and throw BS and hope to get others to
believe it.
| Quote: | | Yes, what we did in WW2 was genocide. Granted, in that situation there was a viable threat to our national
security. |
and there isn't now?
| Quote: | | In this current situation, it is our foolish American pride that is not allowing us to high tail it out of Iraq/Afghanistan. I
had hoped the Obamunator would have lived up to his promises and removed the soldiers. |
and I hope He does not remove a Single solider from either warzone, not until the job is done. case closed
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In any case, the systematic destruction of any nationality IS genocide. |
outside of war yes, but in a war, then no unless you horde the people and gas them. If they die by our bombs then it's just Civilian causalities
thats all. We didn't think twice about bombing the Germans, who's people make a great percentage of America's heritage. But when it comes to the
Durka's it's completely different. Dear god look at them savage's. stuck in the middle ages. Women still get stoned to death if they show a part of
their body still.
either they adopt modern thinking or they bite the dust no way around it.
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| posted on 4-5-09 at 04:14 PM |
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Wow I missed a LOT!
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